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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: phppassion.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Installing PHP6 (For beginners)</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-4684</link>
		<dc:creator>phppassion.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Installing PHP6 (For beginners)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] v Better Unicode Support. (Full Unicode Support) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: n-blue &#124; PHP 6</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator>n-blue &#124; PHP 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 04:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unofficial PHP6 Changelog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: .k</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>.k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Better Unicode Support" is very dissapointing...
should be "full unicode support".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Better Unicode Support&#034; is very dissapointing&#8230;<br />
should be &#034;full unicode support&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: T.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>T.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only real 'new' features are the 'shorthand' ternary operators (redundant sounding eh?) and the ability to use list() in a foreach statement (finally).  I agree with the above, where is some enhanced language features?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only real &#039;new&#039; features are the &#039;shorthand&#039; ternary operators (redundant sounding eh?) and the ability to use list() in a foreach statement (finally).  I agree with the above, where is some enhanced language features?</p>
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		<title>By: RAM</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>RAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scriptor,

We all must remember that PHP 6 hasn't been released yet, and is only available from snaps.php.net or via CVS.

Perhaps when PHP 6 releases a beta or pre-release version would your claim hold water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scriptor,</p>
<p>We all must remember that PHP 6 hasn&#039;t been released yet, and is only available from snaps.php.net or via CVS.</p>
<p>Perhaps when PHP 6 releases a beta or pre-release version would your claim hold water.</p>
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		<title>By: PHP6 Unofficial Changelog &#171; Explore Open Source Technology</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>PHP6 Unofficial Changelog &#171; Explore Open Source Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PHP6 Unofficial&#160;Changelog    You may also want to read the Unofficial PHP 6 Changelog. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Becoming PHP 6 Compatible - .: Aptechite's Forum :.</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1061</link>
		<dc:creator>Becoming PHP 6 Compatible - .: Aptechite's Forum :.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PHP 6 Compatible   You may also want to read the Unofficial PHP 6 Changelog.  If you want to make use of PHP 6 when it comes, you're going to have to write your new scripts so [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scriptor</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator>Scriptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the above changes, I really don't see how the next version merits to be called 'PHP 6'. Mostly it's just old, dangerous, and obsolete baggage getting removed. Most of those changes could be done in some future PHP 5 release, if it wasn't for the backlog of developers and code still using to-be-deprecated features.
How about some actual new syntax features? It could stir the waters a bit. One thing I'd like is the ability to add functions to an object/class dynamically, a bit closer to prototypal programming, but it'd be quite handy. Also, it'd be pretty cool to see the blocks in Smalltalk and Ruby being implemented.
How many PHP developers actually have fun coding in PHP? I keep hearing about how it's simple. But it's only a superficial simplicity. Zend needs to figure out that they had better find another way to improve PHP than by adding new classes and functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the above changes, I really don&#039;t see how the next version merits to be called &#039;PHP 6&#039;. Mostly it&#039;s just old, dangerous, and obsolete baggage getting removed. Most of those changes could be done in some future PHP 5 release, if it wasn&#039;t for the backlog of developers and code still using to-be-deprecated features.<br />
How about some actual new syntax features? It could stir the waters a bit. One thing I&#039;d like is the ability to add functions to an object/class dynamically, a bit closer to prototypal programming, but it&#039;d be quite handy. Also, it&#039;d be pretty cool to see the blocks in Smalltalk and Ruby being implemented.<br />
How many PHP developers actually have fun coding in PHP? I keep hearing about how it&#039;s simple. But it&#039;s only a superficial simplicity. Zend needs to figure out that they had better find another way to improve PHP than by adding new classes and functions.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any word on the much-needed improvements to the object/class situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any word on the much-needed improvements to the object/class situation?</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-12-13 &#171; Bijay Rungta&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-12-13 &#171; Bijay Rungta&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brendon</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did think that but the PHP 6 minutes say:

// Evaluates to $_GET['foo'] if it's not set (with a notice) or false. It
// evaluates to 42 if $_GET['foo'] evaluates to true.
$foo = $_GET['foo'] ?: 42;

// Evaluates to "true" if $blå equals 42 and it evaluates to 54 otherwise.
$blå = $blå == 42 ?: 54;

I'm probably missing something pretty obvious, but to me it is contradictive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did think that but the PHP 6 minutes say:</p>
<p>// Evaluates to $_GET['foo'] if it&#039;s not set (with a notice) or false. It<br />
// evaluates to 42 if $_GET['foo'] evaluates to true.<br />
$foo = $_GET['foo'] ?: 42;</p>
<p>// Evaluates to &#034;true&#034; if $blå equals 42 and it evaluates to 54 otherwise.<br />
$blå = $blå == 42 ?: 54;</p>
<p>I&#039;m probably missing something pretty obvious, but to me it is contradictive.</p>
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		<title>By: Ovidiu C.</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>Ovidiu C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not 1000‰ sure, but I think $a = $s ?: 'b' works something like this:

if ($s) {
    $a = $s;
} else {
    $a = 'b';
}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not 1000‰ sure, but I think $a = $s ?: &#039;b&#039; works something like this:</p>
<p>if ($s) {<br />
    $a = $s;<br />
} else {<br />
    $a = &#039;b&#039;;<br />
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		<title>By: Making the web &#187; Becoming PHP 6 Compatible</title>
		<link>http://www.making-the-web.com/2007/12/09/unofficial-php-6-changelog/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Making the web &#187; Becoming PHP 6 Compatible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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